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#536 Stress: Friend or Foe? | Learn Polish Podcast

#536 Stress: Friend or Foe? | Learn Polish Podcast
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#536 Stress: Friend or Foe? | Learn Polish Podcast

Welcome to Learn Polish Podcast, episode 536 — "Pinset Suggesti Sest." Hosts discuss stress: defining it, personal first experiences, bodily signals, and when stress can be motivating. They share practical coping strategies like breathing exercises, short meditations, hobbies, movement, and acceptance. Roy's story about a Valencia theft illustrates managing stress during travel. Find lessons, show notes, and links at learnpolishpodcast.com and roycoughlan.com

 

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00:06 - Introduction to Stress

01:50 - Understanding Stress

05:02 - Symptoms of Stress

07:20 - Positive Aspects of Stress

10:30 - Coping Strategies for Stress

13:47 - Evolution of Stress Perception

19:45 - Stress in the Modern World

23:28 - Finding Balance in Life

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it's going to be a dat word,

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Jušenja, koniec cześć a tak, tak, czekałam, czekałam, czekałam zdać a może ja

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się ciebie zapytam jak się masz dobrze, dziękuję a u ciebie?

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No czy dobrze.

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Mogłoby być lepiej już teraz trochę lepiej ale powiem ci, że no I was a little

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bit nervous, but today is Wednesday, right?

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But the stereotype that Wednesday is a difficult day in life...

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How do you think? Are you thinking that Wednesday are so difficult to stay?

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Or are your Wednesdays good? Because I have to take care of mine. No, exactly.

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For me it's a new week, new life, everything is in the same way.

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But when I work with a firm and I'm not happy, normally in the afternoon I think about the morning.

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When I think about the afternoon, in the afternoon I'm not happy about your work.

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I mean, I'm not... I'm not... But rather... It's complicated.

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It's complicated, but... And in the case,

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I'm very interested in your opinion on how to deal with stress,

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with stress caused by work.

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Today I'm in my name today, or any stress.

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I don't know, there are different situations, which are stressors.

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In my life is just a job, which in sum I don't stress.

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I don't know, in sum I'm a little worse.

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Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, Roy, let's start with this.

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Tell me in the way, how do you understand stress? What is stress?

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What is stress? What is stress?

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Stress is when you are not in control, when you don't think well,

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when you are nervous, when you think that things are in your head,

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when you think that it will be bad, it will be bad, because I think that it will be bad.

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Stress is just fine. in the same way. I think it's okay. It's not bad,

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but it's not bad. It's not bad.

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It's not bad.

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Stress is a psychological problem.

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When we have negative thoughts and we have negative thoughts,

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we are nervous, we have negative thoughts. No tak, to prawda.

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A powiedz mi w takim razie, skoro mi powiedziałeś definicję stresu, ok, ja się zgadzam z tym,

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to czy pamiętasz moment, w którym pierwszy raz w Twoim życiu odczułeś stres

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taki silniejszy? And why?

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What was the factor that you stress?

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What was it when you first felt like stress?

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But maybe stress not like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't buy a sugar,

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but maybe more like a more dorous stress, so let's say, a serious stress,

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when you first felt like you were first in such situation.

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I don't know, I don't know. Well, when you were already responsible,

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so I think it's about 15-17 years old.

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Because when you're a child, you don't stress yourself. And then you start.

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I think I think when I have an exam in school, I think it's always going to

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be a stress, because it has to be a stress, and the state exam, the country exam.

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Yes, but I think that with the examinations are just the children who are not

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yet aware of the stress, because for such children stress is an exam,

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and for me, from the perspective of life, an exam is nothing.

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So, when you were a child, you were stressed about the examinations?

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Yes, of course, and more.

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No, dobra. A powiedz mi w takim razie, no, bo stres jest chyba najgorszy,

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Yes, it's the best. Because he impacts us in the world.

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And now tell me, if a person is stressed, what signals your body do you have? How do you feel stress?

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Because I can say that I don't stress.

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But I can say that my body says that I'm stressed. I can say that I don't.

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And now the question is, how do you see it? what are the symptoms of stress?

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Sometimes people may have pain, may have pain,

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may have pain, may have pain, when there is stress, because it's like a child

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relaxes, and a child says stop, because the head says, it will be good, and he works,

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he works, and sometimes there is pain, or maybe a cat, or something,

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and then you have to lie, and then relax, But stress is probably your body's stress for you, right?

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Yes. I think that's what you are doing.

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But, unfortunately, I identify myself. At the end of my body, I'm not from stress.

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But I can't be afraid of myself.

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It's as it is, unfortunately. Okay. So, we have some symptoms of stress.

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Now we have another question. A raczej stwierdzenia.

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No bo stres jest postrzegany jako coś negatywnego. Że zawsze to kojarzy się z czymś negatywnym.

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Może stresuje się, no bo boje się, jest mi źle.

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Ale teraz pytanie odwrotne. Czy stres może być motywujący? Czy może być pozytywny?

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No właśnie, no to... O synapse check watch.

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Otwarty nowy biznes. Tak, I wie, czy będzie dobrze,

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ale ma streś, ale ten streś jest motywacja, pracuje dużo i będzie dobrze,

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ale kiedy nie jest streś, może będzie dobrze, nie ma klient, nie ma pieniędzy.

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Jak mogę płacić tak rent i wszystko, tak?

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Hi, Roy, you're talking so good today, you're talking about my life,

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I'm sorry, but it's something like that's true, it's something like that's true,

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it's something like that's true, okay,

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so stress can be motivated and I'm the most important example,

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so okay, so if we already have stress and we know that it can be positive and

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negative, no, to zależy, ale mamy dwa rodzaje,

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no, to teraz strategia, jak sobie z tym poradzić, co robić, żeby jakoś się rozładować,

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no, bo stres, no, to raczej zawsze jest,

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mniejszy albo większy, zawsze, nieważne, czy dobry, czy zły,

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czy duży, czy mały, zawsze jest pytanie, co robić,

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no, żeby jakoś funkcjonować z tym stresem, tak, no, bo na dłuższą metę wydaje

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mi się, że jak ktoś się tak cały czas stresuje, no to faktycznie może być z nim źle.

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Jak się odstresować? To jest dobre pytanie i mam nadzieję, że powiesz coś dobrego,

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bo ja potrzebuję takiej porady teraz, więc słucham Cię, zainspiruj mnie,

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powiedz mi jak bym się odstresować.

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So, the first is dyka. Dyka dobra. Bo czasami ludzi is like stresst.

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I może kilka minut.

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Aha, czyli oddychać, tak? I dykać, tak?

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I może medytacja. I też nie musi być pół godziny godziny. Może być pięć minut, dwa minut.

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Bo czasami, kiedy ludzi jest stresst, to mówi, nie ma czas na medytację, tak?

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Ale jest czas, bo... No, but you know what, I'm the type of person,

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which meditation is the nerve.

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I, to be relaxed, I'm going to be a little bit.

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I don't relax, I don't want to be a little.

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But people think that meditation has to sit with closed eyes and do what you

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want. No, I'm not going to start meditation, I'm going to get nervous.

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Maybe you can dance with meditation, maybe fishing, all the way,

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maybe you can look at waves on the beach, maybe you can go to the beach.

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It's like your head relaxes, don't think about work, don't think about work.

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Think about where you are.

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So, you go to the passer, you go to the passer, you look at everything,

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and you don't think, you look at it, and when you look, you don't think,

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you'll be relaxed, you'll be able to do it. No, no, no.

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And when you think wrong, what is that you change your mind?

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For example, when you watch comedy, you talk with good friends,

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you do good music and dance, right? Because it can't be two senses.

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It can't be sad and happy.

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So, do something that is good for you.

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Dance, music, do something.

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And then, the stress will change. Because it's no sense when you are stressed. I have to work.

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When I have a bad day, a bad hour, and say, okay, stop, I'm going to pass her, or,

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You listen to the podcast, you do something, and then you will have more stress.

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Okay, so let's go to this topic.

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Tell me, do you believe in something like acceptance of stress or control stress? stress.

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So that stress, which we have, because of stress, it is not that it is difficult,

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it is not to stop, and say, well, today I don't stress.

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No, no, because it is something that is something that is not a little from

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us, but stress can be accepted and learn to live and learn to live,

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to learn to live, to be able to minimize.

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Or just,

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Nauczyć się żyć ze stresem, zaakceptować go jako część życia. Da się tak?

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Czy raczej ludzie chcą absolutnie usunąć stres?

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Coś w sumie nie ma tyle. Chyba zawsze jest stres.

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Na przykład może prowadzić coś, or idzie na spacer i oglądasz niemiło ludzi.

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Stres, bo uwaga, i może szybko fight or biegasz, tak?

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Ale stres czasami jest dobry dla ciebie, tak? like, and, for example,

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on the job, because when you have a lot of stress, you can have money to pay,

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then you pay better, and you don't have to pay attention to the phone, and you look at TikTok,

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because stress is like, okay, without a lot of things, so you have to do so important things.

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But you are also a boss, and when you are a bad guy, you have to break, I think and change.

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No sense when you feel stress, sleep, because sometimes people say that I can't

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sleep because I think about something.

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When you think well, open the paper, write what you think, what you can do with your eyes and sleep.

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No sense. mysle mysle mysle mysle. Paul.

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Lepiej just relaxować, tak? Ale dla mnie jest, like, meditacja o breathwork.

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Breathwork jest, like, kiedy dika na 4 minut, tak?

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Może 1, 2, 3, 4, wolno. To jest bardzo powerful, tak?

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A czasami myslę, że, ah, to nie będzie dobrze.

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Bo dlatego ludzi palca paparoczy, tak?

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I mam mniejszy stres. Oh, musi być palca, tak? What do you think? What do you think?

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It's not a paparazzi. It's a dick. Then the paparazzi doesn't go to...

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That's why it's less than... I think it's a paparazzi, but it's not.

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It's a dick. It's very, very important.

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Oddychanie, no, tak. Very interesting. No, dobra.

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A powiedz mi w takim razie, jak zmieniło się Twoje podejście do stresu na przestrzeni lat?

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No bo wnioskuję, że kiedy człowiek jest młody, no to on jeszcze tak nie umie,

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że tak powiem. No to mówisz, Ani, nie jestem młoda.

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So, I mean, when a person is młody, it's still not at all he can function with this stress.

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So, for example, like a child, which has an exam, it's very stressful with this

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exam, and it's a point that, I don't know, it's a bit of a problem.

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But when, I don't know, it's a young person, it's a bit of a exam,

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but now it's just a bit of a thing. No właśnie, a jak się zmieniło Twoje takie...

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Or maybe your perception of stress in your life, when you were young, to go to the police.

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How was it for you? It was an evolution.

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It was an experience. Yes. For example, I was in the firm of the court,

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and the first time I was hurt and I didn't think well, And then, it's not just a thing,

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and I have everything in the notes, I know what to say, I know what to say,

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I know what to say, and when you are nervous,

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it's stress, so you have a high level, so you have a high level,

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so you don't think it's normal for people, so you don't think well,

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but when you think about it,

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you have a lot of time to play,

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because he has control on your head.

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Like, for example, there's a person who says something, because you are nervous,

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because he thinks, and he thinks, and you are nervous, and in the high level,

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he thinks, he can say something wrong.

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But when he thinks, he is calm, he will know.

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And you can say something wrong, and you say something wrong,

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So, this is one of the things I've talked about about trips.

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When I was in Hispanii, because I was in the third city, the second day I was

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in Valencia, I was in the car and the person was everything from our car.

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Which? Walis, bag, passport, passport. That's a good thing, no?

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No, but we have only a phone and a phone. And wait, wait, wait,

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who stole you from Valencia?

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Who are people from Hispanii?

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Probably, because I was with my son and when my car was in the hotel, my son was on Google,

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it was very safe, I can't.

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But we were at the stadium football on the trip just only in the stadium when

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we were back, everything was gone and,

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Yeah, to, to, to, nie by było miło, ale ja nie, ja zadzwonić policję,

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było policję, pisz, raport, ale, Tudov, znaleźli to, nie?

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Bo normalnie ludzi pobyło koniec, wakacje było źle i nesjęczniliwe,

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dla mnie było, like, ok, to jest, co jest,

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wracamy, robimy wszystko i było, spore, że było bardzo dobra wakacje,

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bo ja nie daj moja głowa dla ten źle ludzi.

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Aha, dobra, a powiedz mi odnośnie tej kradzieży, to ten samochód,

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oni go później znaleźli, czy nie?

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Niestety nie. Ty nie wejdz samochód, już wejdz wszystko w środku na samochód.

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Aha, dobra, ale to później te rzeczy oni znaleźli?

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Nie rozumiem. No, że, no bo mówisz, że złodzieje okrali samochód, tak?

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Wzięli twoje rzeczy, tak? Tak, dwa walizka i dwa torby, ze passport i wszystko.

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And then, where were the things? Where were they? No.

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Because I was in the police, and I spoke with the police, and...

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Yeah, Patz, by a ręka na szyba. A on mówi, tak, ale może być samochód dwa dni tutaj.

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I, he said, prawnik będzie mówi, o, ja tylko siedzi na samochodnie.

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I, you know, ja byłem na spacer.

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Tak? I, I said, jak percent będzie wracać moje rzeczy?

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Am policjantant jeden percent. So, I said, bez sens, czekam moje samochody,

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so ja wracam do mojej wakacje.

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I, he says, go be, and not to pay anything.

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When was that?

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Last year. In 2024.

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I'm going to send you a little to that, that maybe it were immigrants.

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I don't know. Maybe, maybe, maybe, I don't know. But it's very true.

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I'm going to be the current situation in this country. I don't know if it was,

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if it were immigrants. Well, I have another question.

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I have another question, but I have a question about the Valencia,

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that I forgot, and I know what I wanted to say about the Valencia.

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Today, the topic of stress is very popular, and it's just in social media,

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which we talked about in social media,

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in social media and in other places, very often is the topic of the way to not stress, to be relaxed,

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to not work, to not do anything, to not do anything, to not do anything.

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But it is not to be done, I have a lot of content, so that you don't stress.

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There are a lot of films, but I think that I have a lot of books or podcasts, about this ant stress.

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Tell me, do you know, that you have a good advice for someone who says about how you don't stress?

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Do you know, do you know how to live without stress?

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Or not? Do you want to give me a book?

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No, I don't read this book. But what you said is good.

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For example, when I watch a good movie, I talk about the future,

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but when I watch horror or thriller, it's not good for my mind,

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because my mind doesn't know what it is. It's not true, right?

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I don't know. I don't know. So, if it's horror or not, I'm already tired.

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But maybe you read a good book, because when you read a good book and you're

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stressed, you're thinking about stress.

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I think, oh, it's time for you. It must be time for you. Sometimes we run to life.

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I have to do this, I have to do this.

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There is no time for you. Everything must be for you.

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I was a good book, but I was more about a book, which is about psychology.

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It's like, for example, a book titled How to deal with stress.

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And there the author wrote to be stressed out. You have to be stressed out.

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You have to be stressed out. You have to read a book.

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I read a book. I read this book.

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I don't like it. I don't know if it was about stress, but psychology.

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I think that podcast will be good.

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When you listen to podcast, someone who says things will be stressed,

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less stressed, Because sometimes people go to the hospital, give tablet,

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and I think that's all in the way.

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That's not good for the head, because then there are many problems.

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And there are people who are marijuana or something, but sometimes there are people in one time.

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And then I know people who are all the time.

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And then I'm like, oh, no, I'm like, oh, what do you want?

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That's not good for the head, because it's a blockade. and I think that this

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is a help and I'm stressed so it must be marijuana or I'm stressed so it must be tablet better.

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You can do natural things for you and you will know what it is and feel good.

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You can do it for example.

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I play ping pong with my son. I play card. I play something.

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I love it. I don't care. I work every time. I work every time.

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Life must be for you. So you can see when it's the end. You can see every day.

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Everything is in the good. Everything is in the good. See you later.

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No, so, generally, I think, the best way is finding an activity, which is good for us.

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Whether it's sports, whether it's a good book, whether it's a good food.

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It's not the best, but it's not the best.

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It's the best, not the best. People often don't believe in the banal things, but it's just banal.

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And the best, or a podcast, the best podcast for the level of stress is LearnProshPodcast.

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I am now in my marketing. So, to be stressed, we listen to LearnProshPodcast. I thank you, Roy.

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And thanks for listening. And don't stress everyone. See you.

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See you. about it though. You can get lessons from Anya in Polish or Spanish

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you'll find there in the show notes but the audio and the video.

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Find everything about me, scan the QR code or go to rycon.com If you're looking

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for virtual assistance go to va.world I have two schools groups,

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one on brain fitness, one on podcasting. You'll find them in the show notes.