#531 Schooling Reimagined: From Strict Classrooms to Real-Life Learning
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00:06 - Introduction to the Podcast
05:29 - Memories of School Days
06:13 - Current Education System Issues
08:23 - Language Learning Challenges
10:43 - Reforming the Education System
15:03 - The Ideal School Concept
19:40 - University and Adult Education
22:01 - Conclusion and Thanks
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Welcome to Learn Polish Podcast. You can find all their episodes on learnpolishpodcast.com
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or also on Pitchute, YouTube and Rumble.
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You can get lessons from Anya either in Polish or in Spanish.
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And you can go from English to Spanish because their English is fantastic,
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but also from Polish to Spanish.
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And the links are in the show notes. You'll find everything about me.
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You can scan the QR code or go to roikon.com where you'll see my six podcasts
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and all the things I'm doing with podcast coaching.
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We have a lot of different people on our books, so if you want anything,
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go to VA.world. CzeÅÄ Ania.
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CzeÅÄ. Jak to? Dobrze. DziÄkujÄ. Uczabia. Nadziesz kawkÄ? PiÅeÅ już kawkÄ?
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PiÅeÅ kawÄ? PiÅeÅ kawÄ? Rano mam z cytryna, tak?
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Moje szalone kawa z cytryna. Today, I'm going to be a black pepper,
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so I'm going to be a little bit.
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No, no, I'm going to be a little bit. Okay, I'm going to come back to our past.
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Because everyone had to go to school.
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I wanted to talk about today about the school.
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Wait, wait. Tell me, Roy, how do you remember your school? Good or negative?
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No, normal person goes to school for 10 years?
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How many years we go to school? We go from 4 years old.
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4 years old. Ok. Okay. Oh my... I'm sorry to say that.
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Now I say that it's important. Now it's important. I don't know what is going
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on. I was very much changed.
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I was going to go to school, which was already not.
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So, ok. But back then, what are you thinking about school? What are you thinking
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about school? Are you thinking about school?
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Are you a good teacher? Or not. It's a good one.
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It's a good one. I'm glad you're here. It's a good one.
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First school at 45 was 40 people in class.
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I was only a kid, not mixed.
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And you have to do it, fold your arms, and say, Doh, but there was a lot of control.
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And I didn't have it. And at that time, first, when I was, I don't know,
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8 or 9, and maybe hit, so there was capital punishment, so they were like,
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or, or ruler, I don't know, ten... Linijka, linijka.
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And here in Poland too, but it's been a long time. When I went to school, they didn't beat me.
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Yes, but when I would have to beat me... Please, aggressively.
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I thought only in Poland, Lily, please.
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I have a few very good teachers, and it was also not good.
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So, first school was 12, next to 13, and then to university.
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And when I was 13, I had class for 40 minutes, I had to change the teacher,
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but before I was one teacher on the whole day, and then he can,
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One was very lonely, went to school,
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said to open the book, read it and it went. I don't know where to go.
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The other one was drinking. And it was not nice.
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We also had a very nice, very good teacher, but it was nice.
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And then at university it was not standard, it was good.
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I think that's the same thing, but with the difference, that my teacher was
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never a bad teacher, never a bad teacher, and that's it.
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But it's just like a half. Sometimes the teacher was good, sometimes he was
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bad. Okay, tell me, what was your favorite subject?
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Did you like more humanistic things, or maybe like, I don't know,
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I don't know, I don't know, what kind of things you liked in school? Maybe matematyka?
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It depends on the teacher and on the matematica. I was very good, I was not good.
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I was bad. And then I have a very good teacher and I was very good.
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I have no situation. I have...
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When I was 13, Our history was a very nice and aggressive teacher.
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I was in the worst school in the class.
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I remember 17% of the test.
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And he always hurts, I have to repeat every day a lot of things.
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And since 15 years ago, I had another teacher.
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It was great. I have 100% on the exam. 100%. I have A on the exam.
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The best marks, right? But before I have the worst. So everything depends on the teacher.
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I have hope that I'm a good teacher and that my students like that are so good.
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Okay. Definitely. No, definitely.
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Okay. Okay, so we mentioned about it.
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Tell me now about the current situation. Tell me, do you have any problems today?
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Do you have any problems?
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Do you have any problems today? today, or later?
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The education system is very bad, and it's exactly how people organize it.
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People don't learn from money, don't learn from culture, don't learn from talking
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with people, and also, all the system is memory.
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You have to remember, when you remember, it's good.
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But it's not an other system, like emotional intelligence, to nieważne.
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It's always when you remember when you do everything.
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For example, I was a little bit because I know how many people want to learn.
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It's not a sense. You remember this poem.
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Every night we have to learn two poems. I don't know if poems in Polish.
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Poetry. Poetry. Poetry. Yeah, yeah, boy. 2.
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Zanot, an kede, ne pamiÄtam, musisz pisz 100 razy.
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It's not possible to remember. I do it in your theater. If you don't remember
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it in Poland, it's 100 times. Yes, I do it all.
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So then, when you do something, it's not important.
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I don't have a chance to do it. I had a very good technical drawing,
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art and mathematics, but sometimes I didn't have a chance to do physics.
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It was not good for me, but unfortunately you have to do everything at school.
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Fun fact, when I was in school, I didn't like Polish.
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In the sense, it was the worst part. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,
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that language Polish taught in school for Poles, it is not Polish language,
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which I have been taught from the country, because language Polish as a foreign
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language is a different thing.
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So, like Poles are taught English or any other language, or any other language.
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But Polish language for Poles is mostly poetry, poetry,
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books.
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Interpretation,
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what the author wants to say. I always it was the most important thing for me,
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because I didn't understand it.
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It was no sense. sensu.
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WiÄc nie lubiÅam polskiego. No, jakoÅ tak.
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No, tak. I też, bo ja mam sytuacjÄ, bo ja mam dużo ludzi, kto pracuje dla mnie.
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Pisz bardzo dobrze po angielsku, ale nie może mów, tak?
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I też ludzie mówiÄ dla mnie, o, jest 16 tens, so ja bÄdÄ mówiÄ po angielsku.
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Simple present, simple past, simple future. And I say, to jest bez sens.
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You must know, past, present, and future, tak?
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I, but, all the school, must be, wszystko, idealne, gramat, takie, dokÅadnie, i,
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In this moment, people don't have a chance to learn, because they are hurting.
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And not that our podcast talks about a important topic, and we only talk about it.
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But in school, you have to write exactly, you have to know.
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You have to do my students, because they always say they are not speaking in
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Polish, because they don't have a lot of mistakes, they don't have words,
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they don't have words, they don't have words, and they are very afraid to speak.
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My students are like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
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I'm so sorry. I'm going to listen to Roya.
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Roya też robi bÅÄdy i nagrywa podcast, wiÄc Roya bÄdzie was motywowaÅ,
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że można i nikt was nie ocenia.
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To nie jest ważne popeÅniaÄ bÅÄdy. To ważne, żeby mówiÄ.
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Nawet jak popeÅniasz bÅÄdy. Ja Roya rozumiem i tutaj sobie rozmawiamy,
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wiÄc naprawdÄ trzeba byÄ odważnym w życiu w ogóle, trzeba byÄ odważnym.
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And the next question, which I want to talk about, we talked about it.
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Because my question is, you already told me, school, actually,
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it's a good job, or rather, it's an examiner, because I think I have everything
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in my life, I think I have everything in my life.
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And I think that people who go to school, I think I have a lot of children,
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I think that they don't see this, but I think that everybody thinks that they
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do this, to make sure that I finish school and I don't think I'm going to do it.
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Our system in Europe and the USA is an exam, but the best thing is Finlandia.
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And I don't have a exam for 16 years.
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And I don't have 8 hours a day. It's like 5.
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I remember that very many people in my class were intelligent.
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They were working, they knew life, They were working, they were not able to
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do it, but they were not able to do it, they were not able to do it,
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but they had real knowledge about life.
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And very often it is, that people who are not good at school are good at life.
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People who are good at school are not good at life.
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Like, in return. Because, in fact, they are not good at intelligence. Okay.
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Tell me in this case, imagine that we need to reform education.
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How do you remove education? How do you use, and how do you use it?
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Now we reform, because we know, in the school we have what? Mathematics. In Poland, English,
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Biology, Chemie, and so on. Now how to reform, to reformowaÄ,
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żeby faktycznie ta szkoÅa miaÅa sens.
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Co byÅ zrobiÅ? No, you should reform your school.
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I think, we are, well, now, for a while, when you know, a person is not good at math.
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Why do you have to do math? Math, math, math, math, and you feel not good every day.
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Always is the worst on the test. Everything is like a joke. Oh, you are not good.
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But it can be very good on the language, on the art.
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Sztuka, tak, tak, so wybór, kiedy nie musisz robiÄ ten dziewiÄÄ,
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może szeÅÄ, tak, or piÄÄ, też uczyÄ Å¼ycie, like pieniÄ dze, jak robisz pieniÄ dze.
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Hypoteka, gotuja, relations, tak, jak robiÄ na dziecko, kiedy masz dziecko,
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co jest dobra, jak mogÄ byÄ dobra parents, rodzina, tak, well,
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wszystko is, like, uczyÄ, kiedy masz dziecko, tak? It's, like, nigdy na szkoÅa.
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So, szkoÅa should be uczyÄ na życie.
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I też teraz, nie wiem, ten kraj, ale na kilka kraj jest, like,
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o, teraz is, like, bardzo miÅo ksiÄ Å¼ka od jesteÅ, nie jesteÅ kobieta, musisz byÄ mÄżczyzna.
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Irlandia ma tÄ sytuacjÄ i kilka kraj. So, to nie jest na szkoÅa.
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To nie jest ważne na szkoÅÄ. To jest, like in the home, in the home you can
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do this, this is the conversation,
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and in school there must be a system that the teacher doesn't have a job for
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the whole life, because I remember that the teacher,
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didn't have a job there, so you have to pay for money,
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but the kid didn't have a job.
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And there must be a system that the kids have to pay It's not a good teacher,
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he does nothing, we don't teach him, and then you'll see him and you'll change
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the teacher and you'll have a good teacher.
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But in Irlandia, I don't know, here, this country, but a normal country where
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you have a job is a job to 65 years.
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In Poland, it was a long time. There was a project that was still there.
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So, we all made it in the system. That system education is probably everywhere.
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It's a shame that we know, but not people who should. Okay.
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So, our ideal school was just to create.
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I have a question. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I think that people actually prefer
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to go to the physical school, to sit down, to learn, to learn.
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But in the online schools, it's just more.
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And then, as you can see it in a progno game, let's say, in the future,
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is that actually the online school will be online, that practically people will
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be able to go to this school?
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Or is it going to be on the basis, that it's traditional and online,
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or hybrid, because the contact with the teacher as a school. How do you see it?
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It depends. Online is probably not good, because it depends.
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When there is a camera, the kid knows, but sometimes when it is not, I can do what you want.
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I can write, I can do my phone.
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So it is important. And I think it is good for the kids to talk with friends. And.
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And there is also homeschooling, because in USA there are 2 million people who do homeschooling.
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I know, I know, I know that people go to a school in Smurza, it is in Poland,
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so that children and also nastolatkowie don't go to physical school,
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but they are actually online.
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They don't have a teacher, but they don't have any plans, I have a plan of training,
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organization, but they have to teach them when they want to teach them.
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They usually take exams, then they take maturation in Poland.
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But I think that many people don't take maturation after that,
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because they don't have any pressure.
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The effects are weak in this school online. I don't say that,
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because I work online with my students, but my students are the first most of the children.
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I don't say it, because I work with my kids, but I think that in the future
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I would like to come back to hybrid form,
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so just online, but also physically to have contact with my students here in
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Warsaw, so I'm already invited to the stationers.
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Listen, if you're from Warsaw, I'm invited.
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So I think that it's a traditional form. and so it won't win. It won't win.
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It's probably important, because sometimes my family, the child,
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who goes to school and I don't ask what to do today, what to teach.
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It's like, it's babysitting for children, right?
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And for me, you have to ask what to teach, what he says, because sometimes the teacher is not so,
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agresyvna, i musisz stocz, bo czasami nerwizny, tak, i też, bo mój syn,
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on ja rozmawiam po angielsku, so on mówi bardzo dobrze po angielsku,
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ale kiedy oglÄ dam film, ja, on nie wie, co to byÅo sÅowo, a nam zale, o, on nie czyta.
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So ja kupiÅem ksiÄ Å¼ka, czytam ksiÄ Å¼kÄ, i maÅy level, den nastÄpny, in the statement.
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Now he can read a very good book, so his family can help when he wants.
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But sometimes his family thinks, that they give a phone, it will be good,
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but sometimes it's a care, I don't know, care in Polish. So...
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From your dziecko. Just like a dziecko. No tak.
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MyÅlÄ, że dzisiaj nie dużo osób czyta już ksiÄ Å¼ki. No niestety.
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No dobra, czyli mamy SzkoÅÄ MarzeÅ. No dobra, to jeszcze mam ostatnie pytanie
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już, bo rozmawiamy caÅy czas o takiej szkole dla dzieci, dla nastolatków,
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ale jeszcze tutaj chciaÅam poruszyÄ kwestiÄ tej szkoÅy już dla dorosÅych, czyli uniwersytetu.
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To już nie szkoÅa. To już uniwersytet, czyli studia.
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No, wiÄkszoÅÄ ludzi jednak na te studia idzie po szkole, decyduje siÄ na studia.
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Powiedz mi, jak to jest. Czy każdy powinien iÅÄ na studia, czy nie?
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Nie. Bo czasami apprenticeship jest dobre, na przykÅad mechanik,
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elektrownia, hydraulika też.
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I też, bo kiedy byÅem, ja robiÅem construction economics and management, tak?
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I robiÄ surveying, tak? Wie,
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kiedy robisz na ulicach an osoba ma linia
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i i wszystko bylo upside
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down tak na university a kiedy
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byÅem na praca wszystko normalne so
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czasami uczyÄ stare metody też
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teraz AI może studia a 8 or 4 lat później moja pracy nie bÄdzie so musisz pamiÄtaÄ
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teraz dużo pracy nie bÄdzie so no dobra When we talk about school,
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to tell me, how do you see, if the teacher will die through the AI, or will it?
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That's how it will be through AI, because you said that some work will disappear.
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You can learn from AI? Yes, I do.
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Or, as I look at it now,
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there are a lot of applications where people can talk about AI,
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but it looks like a person who will say that you have private lessons from AI, I always,
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I na pewno taÅsze, so na przykÅad ja ucisz ludzi na podcasting,
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też na AI ludzi może pomóc na podcasting, so wszystko bÄdzie konkurska competition,
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od, co zależy, kiedy ja chcesz naturalna osoba, or AI.
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No to chcesz mi powiedzieÄ, że zniknÄ.
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Bo ja byÅo to optymistyczne. Nie, nie, nie. Mnie żadne AI nie skupiuje.
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Nie, nie, nie. to me, to me it doesn't.
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So okay, then I should have to go to study, but in the first place I'm not good.
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Most people have to go into it, but you still have to think about it.
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So okay, Roi, thank you very much for your conversation.
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It was very pleasure and thank you to my friends who are listening to this topic.
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I would like to share my opinion on this topic. chÄtnie przeczytam.
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ZachÄcam bardzo, bardzo, bardzo, bardzo go komentarze.
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No to co? DziÄkujÄ Ci, Roy i do usÅyszenia w kolejnym podcaÅcie.
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Thank you so you can get lessons from mania
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